Discussion:
Last One Out, Turn Off the Lights
alanportman2002
2010-04-20 15:55:33 UTC
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Judging by the quality and quantity of the posts, this group will not be around much longer. Pity. And I blame Palm for it. I have learned quite a bit from members here, and I hope others have found my posts useful as well.

About three weeks ago I became a Blackberry user. This started when I upgraded my desktop computer and discovered that Palm does not work with Vista. Or at least, does not work easily wit Vista. I survived for several months on PocketMod (www.pocketmod.com/, http://repocketmod.com/) printouts from Time & Chaos (www.chaossoftware.com/). I have been a Time & Chaos user for more than fifteen years and would be lost without it.

My requirements for a replacement for my Zire 71 were: Synchronization with T & C, for free if possible; full qwerty keyboard; available from Sprint, the cheapest carrier for me; web enabled, optional. I really wanted a Pre. I have been a Palm user for more than ten years (anyone remember Handspring?) Every time I looked at a Pre and then a Pixii, I ended up frustrated. I am a computer support technician. I live and breathe technology. For me to pick up a phone, have trouble powering it up, trouble sorting through apps and to seem to always end up trapped in Pandora was maddening. On the other hand, thirty seconds after picking up a BB Curve, I could find everything. Change ringers, done. Take a picture, done. Check email, done. Make a phone call, done. Check the calendar, done.

So, my Palm is now sitting on its charger no longer connected to a computer, just in case I need something from it. My Blackberry is on my hip, contacts, appointments and tasks all up to date.

I blame Palm for shooting themselves in the foot with the Pre/Pixii. The fact that there is no easy way for a current Palm user to upgrade to the WebOS is about as close to a design flaw as I have seen. Add to it that I would have had to purchase the Palm legacy app for the Pre/Pixii is just insulting to current customers.

Palm, while you are fixing things, your app store is a joke. The last time I checked, it was barely viewable without first buying a phone. You did fire the idiot who thought this was a good idea, didn't you? I wanted to know what I could add to my new phone. I found a list that changed very little from the first day the phone was released. Tell me again how this is supposed to incurage me to buy a new phone?

I am not dropping my membership as I do find the posts interesting.

So long, and thanks for all the fish

Alan Portman
IT Specialist
St. Louis College of Health Careers

www.theportmans.name
Jermia
2010-04-20 16:12:52 UTC
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I'm using palm centro now, without sync to the computer because I upgraded
to windows 7. I'm thinking to leave palm, but haven't decided to go with
nokia (e52) or blackberry. Anyone has experience with GTD on nokia? I like
the small form factor.

*currently do GTD only on the phone, and have many useful app in the Centro
(perfectpitch, ukechord)

Jermia


On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:55 PM, alanportman2002
Post by alanportman2002
Judging by the quality and quantity of the posts, this group will not be
around much longer. Pity. And I blame Palm for it. I have learned quite a
bit from members here, and I hope others have found my posts useful as well.
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Stan Michael
2010-04-20 17:21:24 UTC
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"upgrading" from a handspring visor to a palm treo 755p. (My 3 year old LG enV finally shot craps). Any gotchas I should know about?

TIA
Stan
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From: Jermia <zhjermia-***@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [GtD_Palm] Last One Out, Turn Off the Lights
To: GtD_Palm-***@public.gmane.org
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 10:12 AM







 









I'm using palm centro now, without sync to the computer because I upgraded

to windows 7. I'm thinking to leave palm, but haven't decided to go with

nokia (e52) or blackberry. Anyone has experience with GTD on nokia? I like

the small form factor.



*currently do GTD only on the phone, and have many useful app in the Centro

(perfectpitch, ukechord)



Jermia



On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:55 PM, alanportman2002
Post by alanportman2002
Judging by the quality and quantity of the posts, this group will not be
around much longer. Pity. And I blame Palm for it. I have learned quite a
bit from members here, and I hope others have found my posts useful as well.
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Harold M. Goldner
2010-04-20 17:48:35 UTC
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If you rely upon Exchange; Active Sync is problematic if you are running
Exchange 2003 or later on a Treo 755p. Some syncing software actually runs
better with older versions of the Hotsync software.

Also, if you don't want to deal with the annoyance of reregistering a lot of
software and possibly losing data, don't change your user ID when you
migrate to the Treo 755p.

Harold <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GtD_Palm/links>


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Harold M. Goldner
2010-04-20 17:47:00 UTC
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I also still enjoy the group as I continue to use my Treo 755p, and will
keep my T|X indefinitely. However, I based upon current needs and my new
firm affiliation, I will be choosing either the Motorola Droid or the HTC
Incredible within the next few weeks. I want to try out the Incredible
first before deciding. I won't give up a hardware keyboard without actually
trying the thing out.

However, Palm and WebOS have not solved serious issues with Exchange which
plague it. The forums and support areas are replete with issues. Most
people I know with Pre's have had them replaced multiple times, and, as I
have written elsewhere, Palm simply does not want to offer a "mission
critical" device that can be relied upon any more (like for instance, the
Treo). The lack of external storage is a deal killer for me.

The only reason I'm still a shareholder is because I can't find anyone
stupid enough to purchase their shares.

Harold <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GtD_Palm/links>


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Dave Persinger
2010-04-20 19:01:39 UTC
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I am still TX'ing for the time being (and still have a brand-new, unopened TX as a spare) but I too can see the writing on the wall. I do want to say however that I have used both Vista and Windows 7 since their respective release dates and I am able to successfully Hotsync with both. (with W7 64-bit I use the network hotsync via wi-fi since usb hotsync doesn't work with 64-bit)

I am keeping my eyes open for what may be a suitable replacement in the future. I use the native Palm apps extensively, Contacts, Calendar, Tasks, Memos, etc. Alan, when you moved to the Blackberry, were you able to bring over your existing Contacts, etc, or did you have to re-enter them all? I hope I can eventually find something suitable to replace the TX because it will not last forever, and may not work with Office 2010 once it is released. Any products made by Apple will NEVER EVER touch my hands, and I will NEVER surrender my data to the "Cloud".

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Judging by the quality and quantity of the posts, this group will not be around much longer. Pity. And I blame Palm for it. I have learned quite a bit from members here, and I hope others have found my posts useful as well.

About three weeks ago I became a Blackberry user. This started when I upgraded my desktop computer and discovered that Palm does not work with Vista. Or at least, does not work easily wit Vista. I survived for several months on PocketMod (www.pocketmod.com/, http://repocketmod.com/) printouts from Time & Chaos (www.chaossoftware.com/). I have been a Time & Chaos user for more than fifteen years and would be lost without it.

My requirements for a replacement for my Zire 71 were: Synchronization with T & C, for free if possible; full qwerty keyboard; available from Sprint, the cheapest carrier for me; web enabled, optional. I really wanted a Pre. I have been a Palm user for more than ten years (anyone remember Handspring?) Every time I looked at a Pre and then a Pixii, I ended up frustrated. I am a computer support technician. I live and breathe technology. For me to pick up a phone, have trouble powering it up, trouble sorting through apps and to seem to always end up trapped in Pandora was maddening. On the other hand, thirty seconds after picking up a BB Curve, I could find everything. Change ringers, done. Take a picture, done. Check email, done. Make a phone call, done. Check the calendar, done.

So, my Palm is now sitting on its charger no longer connected to a computer, just in case I need something from it. My Blackberry is on my hip, contacts, appointments and tasks all up to date.

I blame Palm for shooting themselves in the foot with the Pre/Pixii. The fact that there is no easy way for a current Palm user to upgrade to the WebOS is about as close to a design flaw as I have seen. Add to it that I would have had to purchase the Palm legacy app for the Pre/Pixii is just insulting to current customers.

Palm, while you are fixing things, your app store is a joke. The last time I checked, it was barely viewable without first buying a phone. You did fire the idiot who thought this was a good idea, didn't you? I wanted to know what I could add to my new phone. I found a list that changed very little from the first day the phone was released. Tell me again how this is supposed to incurage me to buy a new phone?

I am not dropping my membership as I do find the posts interesting.

So long, and thanks for all the fish

Alan Portman
IT Specialist
St. Louis College of Health Careers

www.theportmans.name




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Ed Gallagher
2010-04-20 17:47:17 UTC
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Hmmm. I've been syncing my Palm Centro with Office 2007 on Vista for over a
year. Never a problem.



Also my son has the Pre and it syncs wirelessly. I am thinking of getting
one now but I don't want to upgrade my plan which includes everything for
only 49.99



I also have Sprint.



Ed Gallagher

phone: 484-638-3265

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From: GtD_Palm-***@public.gmane.org [mailto:GtD_Palm-***@public.gmane.org] On Behalf
Of alanportman2002
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 11:56 AM
To: GtD_Palm-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [GtD_Palm] Last One Out, Turn Off the Lights





Judging by the quality and quantity of the posts, this group will not be
around much longer. Pity. And I blame Palm for it. I have learned quite a
bit from members here, and I hope others have found my posts useful as well.

About three weeks ago I became a Blackberry user. This started when I
upgraded my desktop computer and discovered that Palm does not work with
Vista. Or at least, does not work easily wit Vista. I survived for several
months on PocketMod (www.pocketmod.com/, http://repocketmod.com/) printouts
from Time & Chaos (www.chaossoftware.com/). I have been a Time & Chaos user
for more than fifteen years and would be lost without it.

My requirements for a replacement for my Zire 71 were: Synchronization with
T & C, for free if possible; full qwerty keyboard; available from Sprint,
the cheapest carrier for me; web enabled, optional. I really wanted a Pre. I
have been a Palm user for more than ten years (anyone remember Handspring?)
Every time I looked at a Pre and then a Pixii, I ended up frustrated. I am a
computer support technician. I live and breathe technology. For me to pick
up a phone, have trouble powering it up, trouble sorting through apps and to
seem to always end up trapped in Pandora was maddening. On the other hand,
thirty seconds after picking up a BB Curve, I could find everything. Change
ringers, done. Take a picture, done. Check email, done. Make a phone call,
done. Check the calendar, done.

So, my Palm is now sitting on its charger no longer connected to a computer,
just in case I need something from it. My Blackberry is on my hip, contacts,
appointments and tasks all up to date.

I blame Palm for shooting themselves in the foot with the Pre/Pixii. The
fact that there is no easy way for a current Palm user to upgrade to the
WebOS is about as close to a design flaw as I have seen. Add to it that I
would have had to purchase the Palm legacy app for the Pre/Pixii is just
insulting to current customers.

Palm, while you are fixing things, your app store is a joke. The last time I
checked, it was barely viewable without first buying a phone. You did fire
the idiot who thought this was a good idea, didn't you? I wanted to know
what I could add to my new phone. I found a list that changed very little
from the first day the phone was released. Tell me again how this is
supposed to incurage me to buy a new phone?

I am not dropping my membership as I do find the posts interesting.

So long, and thanks for all the fish

Alan Portman
IT Specialist
St. Louis College of Health Careers

www.theportmans.name





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Morgan Young
2010-04-20 18:11:31 UTC
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I used my Treo with Vista for more than 2 years with no problems, I
upgraded to the latest version of Palm Desktop and went about my business.
I am a pixi owner now, and while I agree with you that Palm has shot
themselves in the foot many, many times, I am up and running with a palm
pixi, I wish I could go to the motorola droid now. I left Motorola
phones for the Treo, and have always missed them, I love Motorola
products, I even thought about going back from a treo a couple of months
ago to a razor and my Palm TX.

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Post by alanportman2002
Judging by the quality and quantity of the posts, this group will not be around much longer. Pity. And I blame Palm for it. I have learned quite a bit from members here, and I hope others have found my posts useful as well.
About three weeks ago I became a Blackberry user. This started when I upgraded my desktop computer and discovered that Palm does not work with Vista. Or at least, does not work easily wit Vista. I survived for several months on PocketMod (www.pocketmod.com/, http://repocketmod.com/) printouts from Time & Chaos (www.chaossoftware.com/). I have been a Time & Chaos user for more than fifteen years and would be lost without it.
My requirements for a replacement for my Zire 71 were: Synchronization with T & C, for free if possible; full qwerty keyboard; available from Sprint, the cheapest carrier for me; web enabled, optional. I really wanted a Pre. I have been a Palm user for more than ten years (anyone remember Handspring?) Every time I looked at a Pre and then a Pixii, I ended up frustrated. I am a computer support technician. I live and breathe technology. For me to pick up a phone, have trouble powering it up, trouble sorting through apps and to seem to always end up trapped in Pandora was maddening. On the other hand, thirty seconds after picking up a BB Curve, I could find everything. Change ringers, done. Take a picture, done. Check email, done. Make a phone call, done. Check the calendar, done.
So, my Palm is now sitting on its charger no longer connected to a computer, just in case I need something from it. My Blackberry is on my hip, contacts, appointments and tasks all up to date.
I blame Palm for shooting themselves in the foot with the Pre/Pixii. The fact that there is no easy way for a current Palm user to upgrade to the WebOS is about as close to a design flaw as I have seen. Add to it that I would have had to purchase the Palm legacy app for the Pre/Pixii is just insulting to current customers.
Palm, while you are fixing things, your app store is a joke. The last time I checked, it was barely viewable without first buying a phone. You did fire the idiot who thought this was a good idea, didn't you? I wanted to know what I could add to my new phone. I found a list that changed very little from the first day the phone was released. Tell me again how this is supposed to incurage me to buy a new phone?
I am not dropping my membership as I do find the posts interesting.
So long, and thanks for all the fish
Alan Portman
IT Specialist
St. Louis College of Health Careers
www.theportmans.name
martin trotter
2010-04-20 16:17:55 UTC
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Lo,

On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 3:55 PM, alanportman2002
Post by alanportman2002
Judging by the quality and quantity of the posts, this group will not be around much longer. Pity. And I blame Palm for it. I have learned quite a bit from members here, and I hope others have found my posts useful as well.
About three weeks ago I became a Blackberry user. This started when I upgraded my desktop computer and discovered that Palm does not work with Vista. Or at least, does not work easily wit Vista. I survived for several months on PocketMod (www.pocketmod.com/, http://repocketmod.com/) printouts from Time & Chaos (www.chaossoftware.com/). I have been a Time & Chaos user for more than fifteen years and would be lost without it.
I am pretty sure most palm users are using bluetooth to sync to vista
but you are better off asking in the Treo yahoogroup. I am using xp
pro so dont know the details but its certainly doable.


Happy with my treo 680 and palm TX since i dont like cloud computing
or the lack of sd card slot.

Martin N
Margaret Robinson
2010-04-22 05:01:29 UTC
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Funny, I've been running a TX with Vista since February 2008.

Margaret - St. Louis

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Of alanportman2002
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:56 AM
To: GtD_Palm-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [GtD_Palm] Last One Out, Turn Off the Lights

Judging by the quality and quantity of the posts, this group will not be
around much longer. Pity. And I blame Palm for it. I have learned quite a
bit from members here, and I hope others have found my posts useful as well.

About three weeks ago I became a Blackberry user. This started when I
upgraded my desktop computer and discovered that Palm does not work with
Vista. Or at least, does not work easily wit Vista.
John Rae
2010-04-22 05:04:32 UTC
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My TX ran fine with Vista for 2 years until I upgraded to Win 7 and that
works fine also

JR

Sydney Australia



From: GtD_Palm-***@public.gmane.org [mailto:GtD_Palm-***@public.gmane.org] On Behalf
Of Margaret Robinson
Sent: Thursday, 22 April 2010 3:01 PM
To: GtD_Palm-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: RE: [GtD_Palm] Last One Out, Turn Off the Lights





Funny, I've been running a TX with Vista since February 2008.

Margaret - St. Louis

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Subject: [GtD_Palm] Last One Out, Turn Off the Lights

Judging by the quality and quantity of the posts, this group will not be
around much longer. Pity. And I blame Palm for it. I have learned quite a
bit from members here, and I hope others have found my posts useful as well.

About three weeks ago I became a Blackberry user. This started when I
upgraded my desktop computer and discovered that Palm does not work with
Vista. Or at least, does not work easily wit Vista.





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Bliss
2010-04-22 12:05:21 UTC
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I am running okay with windows7, but I can't install programs via USB. I have a work around where I copy the file to an SD card and then put the SD card back into the TX. I then copy it from the card. How do you manage this? I am having a problem with SplashID desktop, but maybe that's exclusive to that program.
Post by John Rae
My TX ran fine with Vista for 2 years until I upgraded to Win 7 and that
works fine also
JR
Sydney Australia
John Rae
2010-04-22 23:55:08 UTC
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My tx sync connection plug is dodgy so I do all my syncing wirelessly and
that works brilliantly

JR



From: GtD_Palm-***@public.gmane.org [mailto:GtD_Palm-***@public.gmane.org] On Behalf
Of Bliss
Sent: Thursday, 22 April 2010 10:05 PM
To: GtD_Palm-***@public.gmane.org
Subject: [GtD_Palm] Re: Last One Out, Turn Off the Lights





I am running okay with windows7, but I can't install programs via USB. I
have a work around where I copy the file to an SD card and then put the SD
card back into the TX. I then copy it from the card. How do you manage this?
I am having a problem with SplashID desktop, but maybe that's exclusive to
that program.
Post by John Rae
My TX ran fine with Vista for 2 years until I upgraded to Win 7 and that
works fine also
JR
Sydney Australia
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Jeanne Edna Thelwell
2010-04-22 16:00:52 UTC
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Are you running 32-bit or 64-bit Vista? Palm Desktop -- including Hotsync
-- explicitly does not run with 64-bit operating systems.
Post by Margaret Robinson
-----Original Message-----
On Behalf Of John Rae
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:05 AM
Subject: RE: [GtD_Palm] Last One Out, Turn Off the Lights
My TX ran fine with Vista for 2 years until I upgraded to Win 7 and that
works fine also
JR
Sydney Australia
On Behalf
Of Margaret Robinson
Sent: Thursday, 22 April 2010 3:01 PM
Subject: RE: [GtD_Palm] Last One Out, Turn Off the Lights
Funny, I've been running a TX with Vista since February 2008.
Margaret - St. Louis
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Subject: [GtD_Palm] Last One Out, Turn Off the Lights
Judging by the quality and quantity of the posts, this group will not be
around much longer. Pity. And I blame Palm for it. I have learned quite a
bit from members here, and I hope others have found my posts useful as well.
About three weeks ago I became a Blackberry user. This started when I
upgraded my desktop computer and discovered that Palm does not work with
Vista. Or at least, does not work easily wit Vista.
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John Rae
2010-04-22 23:50:11 UTC
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32-bit



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Are you running 32-bit or 64-bit Vista? Palm Desktop -- including Hotsync
-- explicitly does not run with 64-bit operating systems.
Post by Margaret Robinson
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Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 1:05 AM
Subject: RE: [GtD_Palm] Last One Out, Turn Off the Lights
My TX ran fine with Vista for 2 years until I upgraded to Win 7 and that
works fine also
JR
Sydney Australia
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Subject: RE: [GtD_Palm] Last One Out, Turn Off the Lights
Funny, I've been running a TX with Vista since February 2008.
Margaret - St. Louis
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Post by Margaret Robinson
Subject: [GtD_Palm] Last One Out, Turn Off the Lights
Judging by the quality and quantity of the posts, this group will not be
around much longer. Pity. And I blame Palm for it. I have learned quite a
bit from members here, and I hope others have found my posts useful as well.
About three weeks ago I became a Blackberry user. This started when I
upgraded my desktop computer and discovered that Palm does not work with
Vista. Or at least, does not work easily wit Vista.
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persingd
2010-04-23 16:18:06 UTC
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Palm Desktop and Hotsync DO run with 64-bit systems; I have been using both on 64-bit Windows 7 since November 2009. USB Hotsync does not work on 64-bit systems because the Palm USB driver is 32-bit only. You can still Hotsync via Bluetooth or Wi-Fi. I use Network Hotsync via Wi-Fi on my home computer.

Dave Persinger
Are you running 32-bit or 64-bit Vista? Palm Desktop -- including Hotsync
-- explicitly does not run with 64-bit operating systems.
Jeanne Edna Thelwell
2010-04-24 17:47:31 UTC
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I think we've gone in a circle. This conversation started, I believe,
because someone posted that he could only sync his system with Bluetooth,
which led to discussions about why.
Post by Margaret Robinson
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Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 12:18 PM
Subject: [GtD_Palm] Re: Last One Out, Turn Off the Lights
Palm Desktop and Hotsync DO run with 64-bit systems; I have been using
both
Post by Margaret Robinson
on 64-bit Windows 7 since November 2009. USB Hotsync does not work on 64-
bit systems because the Palm USB driver is 32-bit only. You can still
Hotsync
Post by Margaret Robinson
via Bluetooth or Wi-Fi. I use Network Hotsync via Wi-Fi on my home
computer.
Dave Persinger
Are you running 32-bit or 64-bit Vista? Palm Desktop -- including Hotsync
-- explicitly does not run with 64-bit operating systems.
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Jeanne Edna Thelwell
2010-04-24 17:45:45 UTC
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I think we've gone in a circle. This conversation started, I believe,
because someone posted that he could only sync his system with Bluetooth,
which led to discussions about why.
Post by Margaret Robinson
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Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 12:18 PM
Subject: [GtD_Palm] Re: Last One Out, Turn Off the Lights
Palm Desktop and Hotsync DO run with 64-bit systems; I have been using
both
Post by Margaret Robinson
on 64-bit Windows 7 since November 2009. USB Hotsync does not work on 64-
bit systems because the Palm USB driver is 32-bit only. You can still
Hotsync
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via Bluetooth or Wi-Fi. I use Network Hotsync via Wi-Fi on my home
computer.
Dave Persinger
Are you running 32-bit or 64-bit Vista? Palm Desktop -- including Hotsync
-- explicitly does not run with 64-bit operating systems.
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macfarlane79
2010-04-26 07:48:03 UTC
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Don't worry whose going to turn off the lights?
It will take a long, long time before I stop using Palm Devices.
At some time I have tried to change to a couple of other platforms. None of them had me satisfied. I have a good GTD system, all tasks/projects synchronize with my desktop pc, palm Tx and Centro.
If you have something that it works why bother?
Alex
Voytek Eymont
2010-04-26 20:36:01 UTC
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If you have something
that it works why bother? Alex
ditto
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Voytek
Todd Eckblad
2010-04-22 17:03:25 UTC
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I think the problem arises between 32bit vs 64bit versions of windows. The
problem arise with 64 bit.

Todd

-----Original Message-----
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Of Margaret Robinson
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:01 PM
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Subject: RE: [GtD_Palm] Last One Out, Turn Off the Lights

Funny, I've been running a TX with Vista since February 2008.

Margaret - St. Louis

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Of alanportman2002
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Subject: [GtD_Palm] Last One Out, Turn Off the Lights

Judging by the quality and quantity of the posts, this group will not be
around much longer. Pity. And I blame Palm for it. I have learned quite a
bit from members here, and I hope others have found my posts useful as well.

About three weeks ago I became a Blackberry user. This started when I
upgraded my desktop computer and discovered that Palm does not work with
Vista. Or at least, does not work easily wit Vista.




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snider_scott
2010-04-24 12:50:13 UTC
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The problem lies with 64 bit OS. I had to replace my wifes Palm E. As the replacement was shipping her laptop died. The new one has Win 7 Premium 64 bit. Of course it does not work. Here is what you have to do to get yourself running again.

You must be running either professional/enterprise or ultimate windows 7 64 bit. You can do an inplace upgrade via Microsoft at half the price of the box at best buy.

You then download the Virtual PC and XP Mode add-ons from Microsoft. Fortunately they lifted the hardware resistrictions and now it can run either on hardware or in software (slower but it works). This is free once you have the correct version of Win 7.

Launch and configure XP Mode (one time Virtual machine setup). Keep in mind this is another PC running inside of Win 7 so it needs its own firewall, antivirus, etc. comodo, avast, zonealarm all have decent free firewalls and antivirus software.

Install your palm desktop inside the xp machine.

When it comes time to hotsync you should notice on the bar at the top of the screen there is a dropdown menu that says USB. When you intiate the hotsync from your palm or the button on the cable you must take the mouse and click on the USB menu in there you will see the Palm Desktop choice click on it and your hot sync will fire off. You must do this every time.

Fortunately you can print to your printers, access your drives and even cut and paste between Win7 and your XP mode machine so you can continue with your palm pilot until Android comes out with a decent replacement (or iTouch if you like closed systems), But at least you will have your data. You can then export out of the desktop, etc. Or as we are going to do just continue using it until a new PDA grabs our attention.

Good luck everyone. Hope we don't turn out the lights just yet. (At least leave a night light on.....)

Scott

Oh BTW anything else you lost when you went 64 bit can be run in this XP mode as it is really XP. (Even have to do the windows update thing...) So it is worth it even for things that are not Palm but don't run in 64 bit OS.
Post by Todd Eckblad
I think the problem arises between 32bit vs 64bit versions of windows. The
problem arise with 64 bit.
Todd
-----Original Message-----
Of Margaret Robinson
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 10:01 PM
Subject: RE: [GtD_Palm] Last One Out, Turn Off the Lights
Funny, I've been running a TX with Vista since February 2008.
Margaret - St. Louis
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Of alanportman2002
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:56 AM
Subject: [GtD_Palm] Last One Out, Turn Off the Lights
Judging by the quality and quantity of the posts, this group will not be
around much longer. Pity. And I blame Palm for it. I have learned quite a
bit from members here, and I hope others have found my posts useful as well.
About three weeks ago I became a Blackberry user. This started when I
upgraded my desktop computer and discovered that Palm does not work with
Vista. Or at least, does not work easily wit Vista.
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